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  At what point in the story did WT get it wrong, went off at a tangent?

  by prologos in

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  looking at the bible narrative now, with open mind, the talking snake and all, it is a poorly contrived story.

  all these clever people picking up and adding to the thread, the fabric its intriguing, certainly a valued literary work.

  fiction.. using this story wt has woven another, parallel account that you would expect to harmonize with it, and hopefully attempt to connect with reality.. in your thinking, where did wt become unhinged, drifted off into total detachment?.

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  At what point did any religion ever "have it right?"
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  At what point in the story did WT get it wrong, went off at a tangent?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking at the bible narrative now, with open mind, the talking snake and all, it is a poorly contrived story.

  all these clever people picking up and adding to the thread, the fabric its intriguing, certainly a valued literary work.

  fiction.. using this story wt has woven another, parallel account that you would expect to harmonize with it, and hopefully attempt to connect with reality.. in your thinking, where did wt become unhinged, drifted off into total detachment?.

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  I think the reactioonary, destructive 1980 Franz-Dunlap "witch hunt" and expulsion of several other progressive liberal minds set them on a downward course, a tailspin subsequently accelerated by the emergence of the internet.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-09-2013 WT Study (READ BIBLE)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 06-09-2013 wt study (april 15, 2013, pages 7-11)(read bible).

  4. what does it mean to read the bible in an undertone?.

  1:6) how, then, are we to understand jesus words about this generation?

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  "made up of a small group of anointed brothers who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food during Christ’s presence "

  By saying "directly involved," are they suggesting that some on the GB actually write the articles and other printed matter? A highly dubious premise.
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  What problem did being a JW leave with your personality?

  by frogonmytoe in

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  and i don't (necessarily) mean a religious or spiritual one.. for example, i think the traces of guilt and paranoia i often fight with come from being a born-in, but my biggest issue by far is not being able to live in the moment.. i have listened to the power of now audiobook (and eckhart tolle's voice put me to sleep) so i read it instead.

  i have read other self-help books, most of them buddhist in leaning, but i still find it hard to stop thinking only in the future (thanks to the great trib, armageddon), or in the past (jesus, flood, 1914 being responsible for that).

  and whilst i no longer believe the big a is looming, and barely give anything else a second thought, my behaviour has projected itself, and i still find it difficult just to 'be' in the moment, enjoying and savouring what i'm doing, and doing it to the best of my ability, i'm forever thinking what is coming up, and what i did badly last time.. my sister said the last time i visited her that she felt like she was waiting for something to happen "but not like armageddon, something else".

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  In my post -JW life, developing tolerance of diversity in cultures and attitudes, sensitivity to other people's needs, a social conscience, charitable impulses
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  Brothers who were held back from being elder for stupid reasons?

  by toto555 in

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  do you know of any cases where brothers didn't get to be elder for a stupid/bogus reason even though they otherwise qualified?

  do you think some/most appointments are politicially motivated?

  how much do you think politics plays in the appointment process versus merit?

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  If anyone were "turned down" from being an elder, they were done an immense favor.
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  Anthony Morris The 3rd Talks About Human Hot Dogs At Armageddon, There Will Be No Picnic For Survivors

  by frankiespeakin in

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  watch out for armageddon it is going to be numbing to human sensibilities:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=micq4iqrklm.

  i guess he's thinkin jehovah's gonna roast them like a hot dogs burned to a charred ruination over a fire.

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  I believe in a previous threat on this nut-job it was pointed out he served his Viet Nam tenure mainly on a posh military compound complete with barbershop, commissary, etc. Kinda reminds me of the Circuit Overseer involved in the Menlo Park (CA) Kingdom Hall fiasco who falsely claimed he was a Navy Seal.
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  Can I be a Christian if I cannot use a Bible?

  by humbled in

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  do i have to be literate to be a christian?.

  if i only hear about jesus and simply call out and claim him as lord and savior could i be a christian?.

  if i didn't trust men but trusted jesus and the spirit of god to guide me could i be a christian?.

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  I wonder about how many of the primitive Christians were fully literate, and what the first-century rate of literacy was in the first two centuries of the Christian era.
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  I make a vow 2015 will be my last DC to attend ever !!!

  by 5go in

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  even then it will be just be a sunday to see if the fall off come true, or not.. heck this year and next will probally just enough to make it look like i showed up for it.

  thankfully i live around the city it's held in i so it's not a huge sacrafice..

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  " The generation of mis-leaders will all be dead by then." Hey Scotoma, you're not onboard with the "overlapping generations" noo-lite!
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  Let's Take A Look At Judge Rutherford In The Pages of Zion's Watch Tower

  by Kenneson in

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  i thought i'd present my finds on rutherford's early years in the w.t.

  society before he usurped the presidency.

  someone writes a letter and mentions judge rutherford.

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  BTTT: This thread is well worthy of an update and review by any newbies on board snce it was published.
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  The JW life is good!

  by Julia Orwell in

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  for some people.

  i think of the old man who has no family and lives in a nursing home, and the only time he gets out is when he's picked up for the meetings.

  he lives solely for that.. or people who love routine and busy-ness, people who need to be led.. george orwell wrote that the party is best able to impose its worldview on those least likely to understand what it is that's being asked of them: orthodoxy is unconsciousness.. i believe a lot of jws swallow the party line and it passes through them unharmed, like a seed pooped out by a bird.

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  "those who are rightly disposed for everlasting life'' it sounds pretty if weightless of substance; it qualifies as an example of what "vapid" describes: " Offering nothing that is stimulating or challenging, i.e. "tuneful but vapid musical comedies".